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  A Teenager Ran Away From Home to Get Away From the Witnesses ... in 1909

  by Wild_Thing in

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  2. friends

  okay .... i guess technically they weren't witnesses yet; they were just russellites.

  but i still think it is funny that teenagers were heading for the hills to run away from their nonsense ... even back then!.

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  Is this from every issue of The Brooklyn Eagle or from a particular DATE?
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  Dog expert needed

  by glenster in

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  2. entertainment

  this dog looks almost exactly like the dog daisy i used to have about a gener-ation ago.

  you'd think the coloring would be random but it's exactly the sameyet it's from california on the other side of the country.

  i think you mix twohybrids that each typically have a look and that's what you get.

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  Maybe you could talk with your Vet about IF DNA testing might clarify this.
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  The inner workings at Bethel in the 70's

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  while doing some research, i stumbled upon a blog written by a former bethelite.

  his name is john bechtel.

  the blog is several years old.

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  Nathan Natas

  His name is familiar, but that might be because there is a very prominent Engineering, Construction, and Project Management named Bechtel.

  I was in NYC during my yoot and I *might* have heard his name; I'm pretty sure I never met him.

  Is this John Bechtel related to the Engineering firm?
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  I chuckle whenever I think of this

  by Nathan Natas in

  1. social
  2. humour

  about a month ago magnum posted an incident he recalled from his time in the borg... i've copied and pasted it below:.

  magnum .

  that was one of the most frustrating, irritating things to me in jwdom over my several decades in.

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  Probably First (in the tribe of) Dan.
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  I chuckle whenever I think of this

  by Nathan Natas in

  1. social
  2. humour

  about a month ago magnum posted an incident he recalled from his time in the borg... i've copied and pasted it below:.

  magnum .

  that was one of the most frustrating, irritating things to me in jwdom over my several decades in.

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  About a month ago MAGNUM posted an incident he recalled from his time in the Borg... I've copied and pasted it below:

  Magnum

  That was one of the most frustrating, irritating things to me in JWdom over my several decades in. Many elders were clueless. They often taught things that contradicted JW doctrine. Many times, they had no idea what was going on. I could relate many stories. I will mention one now.

  
  

  In the late 80's, I and my wife met for service one morning at the Kingdom Hall. The group was small - just the two of us and maybe eight to ten others. I can still picture it and even remember where we were sitting (back two rows on the rear left of the KH).

  
  

  The PO, who was also a regular pioneer, stood in an aisle and conducted the meeting. He was retired; probably about 60. His meeting consisted of considering the daily text. The comments on the text for that day mentioned Paul's having been involved in Judaism. The PO said "Paul must have been humble because I imagine if he wanted to he could have [at this point he made karate-like motions with his hands] chopped opposers up."

  
  

  My wife and I, to this day, still mention that from time to time. The only thing we can figure is that the PO was thinking of Judo and he thought that Judaism was like some kind or Eastern martial art. And that wasn't just an isolated incident with him.

  
  

  That one was a doozy. Most of the problems were less sensational and had to do with chronic lack of comprehension, lack of ability to teach, ignorance, and, often, just plain old lack of computing power.

  
  

  I was ROTFLing with that, and XJWs I know also found it riotously funny.

  
  

  A few days ago, during my daily oblations, I was led by the Magic Spirit to this scripture -

  "I was advancing in Judaism beyond many of my own age among my people and was extremely zealous for the traditions of my fathers." — Galatians 1:14

  ...and once again found myself on the floor, overflowing with joy.

  
  

  "Judoism"
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  Jehovah's Witnesses: A Clear Decline

  by Hadriel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it is rather clear that the internet is to put it mildly, wrecking the world of the watchtower bible & tract society.

  if not for foreign language i doubt there would be much growth at all.. digital trends and analytics are very real.

  i live this analytics world i assure you to some degree you can take it to the bank.

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  done4good asked two questions:

  
  Q1.: Why is it every time this is discussed, people take either extreme?

  
  
  A1.: Because that is how conversations work. If everyone thought the same, no discussion board would be necessary; see the invisible discussion board at JW.ORG as an example.

  
  

  
  
  Q2.: Neither extreme is correct. [?]

  
  A2.: According to Schrödinger's Witnesses, this is not only correct, but necessary.
  
  
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  Elders & Ex Elders

  by brandnew in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have a question.....if two jw have sex and only one of them goes to the eldurrs and confesses.....do they both get busted?

  or does the boe need a confession from both people.?

  if one of em denies it happened will that person still get df'd?.

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  Fencing coined a NEW PHRASE -- "Quantum states of sin"

  I LIKE it! I LIKE it!
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  THE SHADOW OF '75

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  few of your are old enough to have been there, i suspect.

  i had been in prison two years as a jw conscientious objector when the exciting news about 1975 spread like wildfire.. .

  i was paroled from prison in 1969 and immediately began pioneering.

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  Accidentally duplicated posts can be removed by FLAGGING the thread and making your request using that tool.

  Other methods are just fooling around.
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  Left Bethel to get married and have children, found the TTATT instead

  by jehobi in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  long story, short story.

  grew up on a farm, went to bethel, married a sister and left bethel.

  found ttatt after my cousin died refusing a blood transfusion.

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  Nathan Natas

  Well, I'm sure your experience was at least a little bit more intense than your synopsis makes it seem, but you get bonus points for not embellishing the story in any way.

  I'm sorry you went through this and look forward to additional posts by you.
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  Elders & Ex Elders

  by brandnew in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have a question.....if two jw have sex and only one of them goes to the eldurrs and confesses.....do they both get busted?

  or does the boe need a confession from both people.?

  if one of em denies it happened will that person still get df'd?.

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  Years and years ago, before I had any idea that I would be exiting the WTB&TS, there was this fellow I knew in my congregation and this VERY attractive girl who thought it would be a grand idea to bump uglies in secret one time. Both kids had elder parents but in different congregations. She got a warning, he was disfellowshipped.

  For HIM, this was the best of all possible outcomes. His parents, enraged over the unfair treatment of their Dear Boy, left the WTB&TS along with their son.